POWER COMMANDER VS ECU FLASH PC
The PC also adds AND REMOVES fuel, and you'll find most jap sports bikes with pipes etc on them tend to run rich down low. The advantage of the power commander (or bazzaz) is that each and every point on the map is measured for air/fuel ratios and corrected where needed. I've remapped plenty of flashed ecu's that weren't so good. Now I'm not saying that flashing the ecu won't make the bike better, it may do, and it also may not. Yes for sure, flashing the ecu is great for unlocking fly by wire, closed loop areas, moving where the variable stacks lift and drop (where applicable) etc etc. Ok so lots of what has been said above is true, and some a lil misguided.
POWER COMMANDER VS ECU FLASH FREE
The PC allows you to change the fuel map yourself with free software, whether that is a good thing or not is debatable. Luckily there are quite a few good reflash guru's around that this isn't really a problem. With the ECU reflash you are in the hands of the flash guru's, and unless you can program an ECU yourself, there is little you can do yourself. However, this is another box to pay for and possible source of future gremlins. The PC can also be fitted with an AUTOTUNE module, this gives a true closed loop dynamic tune by inserting a wide band oxygen sensor into the exhaust to continually measure and change the tune to stay at the pre-programmed AFR (the AFR can be set at different values for different throttle openings and engine revs). There are Timing Boxes that can be added to the PC, but more cost and more things that could go wrong. The ECU reflash has the advantage of not only fuel remapping, but almost every other parameter, especially timing. Not sure about the other "piggy back" ECU boxes, but the PC can reduce the fuel to the injectors (it has it's own injector wiring loom) so can lean out the map if required (hence the negative numbers in a PC Map). On a final note i'm happy to pay the extra $$$ to gain performance and a smoother throttle response if the power commander is going to do this above an ECU remap and tune. Sorry if these are stupid questions, but i'm not too technical with engines etc, and was hoping someone/s could please explain this to me a bit better before i decide what i'm going to go ahead with. I also think i read somewhere about loosing some rpms or functions with the bike or something with the power commander, but i can't seem to find what id'e read before about it ? Now the money side of things isn't a major issue, but hey if it's cheaper and i get the same/similar performance, who wouldn't prefer to save the $$$ adding a power commander will cost me about an extra $140 a year to my insurance premium.Īnd also the remap and dyno tune will cost $600 "also cheaper than buying the power commander and tune" The reason i would prefer to do it this way is it will save me money on insurance.
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I rang a dyno tuner last week and they say they can just get my current ecu unlocked and re-map it and dyno tune that. Will be fitting smog block off plates too this weekend "hopefully if they finally arrive" The bike has GYTR slipons and K&N filter too. I used to be able to take off from stopping at very low revs in first.
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I fitted a new y-pipe "decat" to the 07 R1, since then there is a noticeable difference in how the bike is idling and also at low revs the bike isn't as responsive as before fitting the y-pipe, and on a cpl of occasions iv'e had to clutch it out of first as dropped power "dying" when taking off if i don't rev a bit higher if you know what i mean. Can anyone please explain a bit of this to me ?